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ID:649 Alice Smith 1857-1925
Gaz's 2nd Great Grandmother
Birth    1857 Wanstead, Essex,
Death 8 JUNE 1925 Norton Canes, Staffordshire
Mother   
Father Frederick Smith
Siblings 
 
 
 
We are still trying to find hard evidence to substantiate evidence about Alices early life. We originally thought we had found her but then found conflicting facts that cast some doubt on her presumed parentage so have gone back to base.

We know Alice was born born in Wanstead, Essex in 1856/7.

We know from family memories that there was a name change within the family years ago and that the name Gray is connected to the family. In 1911 census in Norton Canes , Alices son George used the name Gray .  

We were unable to find marriage any details for Alice Smith and Charles Taylor in the West Ham area but we did find the record below for Charles Gray and Alice Taylor. Bearing in mind the surnames of the couples eldest sons, Frederick and Henry, it seems almost too much of a coincidence that Alices father is named as Frederick and Charles father is named as Henry to discount this possible marriage entry. 
In the entry although inconclusive we have the following clues:

* We knew prior to starting the tree the name Gray was in thre family and that a namechange had taken place
* The birth years are consistent with what we already know. 
* The marriage date is consistent with the birth dates of their children
*The place, West Ham is where their first two children were born
*As said, Frederick and Henry were the names of their first two children and are the names of their fathers in the document. 
* There is nothing in the entry that conflicts with what we know.
Son, Frederick Thomas Taylor was born in West Ham, London in 1879. 
Son Henry was born in 1880 in West Ham.
Son Charles was born in June 1883 in Walthomstow.
Son John was born in 1884 in Edmonton, Essex.
We know that in 1884 the family moved to Nottingham. According to the birth certificate his sister Emily was born in a van opposite Goodhead Street in November 1884 which indicates the family may have been travellers/gypsies.
Daughter Emily was born in 1884 in Nottingham.
1891
1891 Census for '9 Leather Street, Nottingham'
Name                 
Relationship Status       Age     Est YOB Gender   Birth County                    Occupation                  
Alice Taylor        Head              Widowed 34       1857        Female Wanstead, Essex            Charlady
Fred Taylor Son   13 1878 Male West Ham, Essex Coal Labourer
Henry Taylor Son   11 1880 Male West Ham, Essex Schoolboy
Charles Taylor Son   8 1883 Male Walthamstow, Essex Schoolboy
John Taylor Son   7 1884 Male
Edmonton, Essex Schoolboy
Emily Taylor Daughter   6 1885 Female Nottingham, Notts Schoolgirl
1892
July 1892, Birth of son George William Taylor in St Phillips, Nottingham. 
Between 1892 and 1895 we know Alice and her family moved to Norton Canes in Staffordshire. 
In 1895, Alice had another child, Lucy at Norton Canes. We are unsure of who her father was at present.
In 1900, Alices son Henry married Christina Stackhouse, daughter of Isaiah Whitehouse and Jane Stackhouse (nee Phillips).
1901
1901 Census for 'Stokes Lane, Norton Canes, Staffordshire'
Name                 
Relationship Status       Age     Est YOB Gender   Birth County                    Occupation                  
Alice Taylor        Head              Widowed 43       1858        Female  Wanstead, Essex            Charlady
Charles Taylor Son Single 19 1882 Male Walthamstow, Essex Colliery Horse Driver Below Ground
George Taylor Son
9 1892 Male
St Philips, Notts
Lucy Taylor Daughter   6 1895 Female Norton Canes, Staffs
Fanny Cooper Boarder   30 1871 Female Norton Canes, Staffs  
Charles Cooper Boarder   1mth 1901 Male Norton Canes, Staffs  
1903 - Marriage of Isaiah Whitehouse and Alice Smith (registered as Taylor) at St James, Norton Canes, Staffordshire.
1911
1911 Census for 'Stokes Lane, Norton Canes, Staffordshire'
Name                   
Relationship Status       Age     Est YOB Gender   Birth County                    Occupation                  
Isiah Whitehouse Head             Married     52        1859       Male       Staunton, Glocs             Waggoner                
Alice Whitehouse Wife Married 54 1857 Female Woodford, Essex  
George Gray Stepson Single 19 1892 Male Nottingham, Notts Pony Driver in Coal Pit
Alice sadly passed away on June 5th  1925 at Norton Canes. She is buried at St James Church in Norton Canes on June 11th 1925. Despite a couple of attempts we have been unable to find her grave at the churchyard.